R18 Jekill & Hyde Install and Thoughts

Boxer74 said:
I just finished my weekend project of installing the Jekill & Hyde exhaust on my R18 and since I could only find limited threads, I am posting my experience. During the 7 months of owning the bike, I have surprisingly loved almost every aspect of it, but for the exhaust. Cool looking bike with a BMW sewing machine exhaust. The J&H is what should have come with the bike from the factory in my opinion. The wide open exhaust setting is deep and throaty but with a push of a button, you can silence it and sneak into the garage without waking the neighbors. Best of all, everything is hidden and looks very OEM.

Total time from order to deliver was 14 days. Impressive given each exhaust is custom fabricated and shipped from the Netherlands. The communication, packaging, and craftsmanship is A+. Supplied directions are an A-, but hopefully the notes below will assist other in the couple of spots I needed help. Total install time took about five hours. If I had to do it all over again, I think I could cut that in half. I really wish I owned a bike table to lift the bike up and work in a comfortable position. That would have made a world of difference. Having all the necessary tools ahead of time would also have saved many trips to the basement. So let's start there.

Tools
Torx sockets in 25,30,40,45,50
10mm & 13mm socket
3mm & 5 mm allen wrench
Breaker bar (to remove the four OEM bolts that hold the OEM exhaust support in place. There have Loctite on them from the factory.
Rubber mallet (used to pound off the OEM exhaust)
Torque wrench
Blanket to lay/sit on the floor unless you have a bike table.

What I learned
- Remove the factory heat shields secure by two torx bolts. Each OEM exhaust pipe is held on by a single C clamp, but it doesn't slide off. You need to pound it off and in order to do that you need to remove the heat shield.
- Installing the servo motors threw me and I emailed Steeve at J&H on a Saturday for help. He called me within minutes. To me the directions were not clear on how to attached the servos to the bike. Steeve sent me a pic of the bolt to remove and explained that once the bolt is removed, you need to pull down on the plastic and slip the servo tab between the engine and the plastic then re-insert the bolt you just removed. Below is a picture of the bolt you need to remove. Makes sense now.
- Removing the four OEM T50 bolts that secure the exhaust support is a pain, especially on the LH side because the bolts are under the big, they are big, and Loctited in. There isn't much room to play with the shifter. I could see the probability of stripping one of these bolts as moderate. The RH side is easier because the bike is leaning in the opposite direction and there is no shifter. Still, this was the biggest pain of the project.
- The wiring was a breeze and took about 30 minutes. The button on the handlebar is easy to pop on and I snaked the wire through the existing OEM hole in the handlebar so it is concealed. Alternatively, you could zip tie it to the outside.

I could only start it up in the garage as it is 15 degrees out, but it makes me smile. Below are a couple pics of the process and to show where I ran into questions. I hope this is of some value to the next install.

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Just checking in... Any issues with the Dr. J-&-Mr. H exhaust system, after having it on the road for some time?

Is it still meeting or exceeding your expectations?
 
Scott Semone said:
I noticed that the R18 B Freedom exhaust upgrade requires an additional bracket, so that the hard cases don't get heat damage; I'm guessing the brackets raise the cases up a bit, creating more space between the silencer and the bottom of the cases?
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No, the stock hard case brackets are too thick to clear the Freedom Exhaust 4.5" muffler. So they reengineered the bracket so the muffler fits. It doesn't change the height of the hard case.
 
Boxer74 said:
I just finished my weekend project of installing the Jekill & Hyde exhaust on my R18 and since I could only find limited threads, I am posting my experience. During the 7 months of owning the bike, I have surprisingly loved almost every aspect of it, but for the exhaust. Cool looking bike with a BMW sewing machine exhaust. The J&H is what should have come with the bike from the factory in my opinion. The wide open exhaust setting is deep and throaty but with a push of a button, you can silence it and sneak into the garage without waking the neighbors. Best of all, everything is hidden and looks very OEM.

Total time from order to deliver was 14 days. Impressive given each exhaust is custom fabricated and shipped from the Netherlands. The communication, packaging, and craftsmanship is A+. Supplied directions are an A-, but hopefully the notes below will assist other in the couple of spots I needed help. Total install time took about five hours. If I had to do it all over again, I think I could cut that in half. I really wish I owned a bike table to lift the bike up and work in a comfortable position. That would have made a world of difference. Having all the necessary tools ahead of time would also have saved many trips to the basement. So let's start there.

Tools
Torx sockets in 25,30,40,45,50
10mm & 13mm socket
3mm & 5 mm allen wrench
Breaker bar (to remove the four OEM bolts that hold the OEM exhaust support in place. There have Loctite on them from the factory.
Rubber mallet (used to pound off the OEM exhaust)
Torque wrench
Blanket to lay/sit on the floor unless you have a bike table.

What I learned
- Remove the factory heat shields secure by two torx bolts. Each OEM exhaust pipe is held on by a single C clamp, but it doesn't slide off. You need to pound it off and in order to do that you need to remove the heat shield.
- Installing the servo motors threw me and I emailed Steeve at J&H on a Saturday for help. He called me within minutes. To me the directions were not clear on how to attached the servos to the bike. Steeve sent me a pic of the bolt to remove and explained that once the bolt is removed, you need to pull down on the plastic and slip the servo tab between the engine and the plastic then re-insert the bolt you just removed. Below is a picture of the bolt you need to remove. Makes sense now.
- Removing the four OEM T50 bolts that secure the exhaust support is a pain, especially on the LH side because the bolts are under the big, they are big, and Loctited in. There isn't much room to play with the shifter. I could see the probability of stripping one of these bolts as moderate. The RH side is easier because the bike is leaning in the opposite direction and there is no shifter. Still, this was the biggest pain of the project.
- The wiring was a breeze and took about 30 minutes. The button on the handlebar is easy to pop on and I snaked the wire through the existing OEM hole in the handlebar so it is concealed. Alternatively, you could zip tie it to the outside.

I could only start it up in the garage as it is 15 degrees out, but it makes me smile. Below are a couple pics of the process and to show where I ran into questions. I hope this is of some value to the next install.

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Thanks you, this will come in handy. I have been wanting the J&H for ages but they weren't available in Australia. I finally came across Thorsten from BM Bikes in Perth and after e few email exchanges, he is now a dealer. Mine should arrive sometime this month and I can't wait. Give Thorsten a shout if you live in Australia (whether it is in WA or not) and are after the J&H. He has been really good to deal with.
 
Boxer74 said:
I just finished my weekend project of installing the Jekill & Hyde exhaust on my R18 and since I could only find limited threads, I am posting my experience. During the 7 months of owning the bike, I have surprisingly loved almost every aspect of it, but for the exhaust. Cool looking bike with a BMW sewing machine exhaust. The J&H is what should have come with the bike from the factory in my opinion. The wide open exhaust setting is deep and throaty but with a push of a button, you can silence it and sneak into the garage without waking the neighbors. Best of all, everything is hidden and looks very OEM.

Total time from order to deliver was 14 days. Impressive given each exhaust is custom fabricated and shipped from the Netherlands. The communication, packaging, and craftsmanship is A+. Supplied directions are an A-, but hopefully the notes below will assist other in the couple of spots I needed help. Total install time took about five hours. If I had to do it all over again, I think I could cut that in half. I really wish I owned a bike table to lift the bike up and work in a comfortable position. That would have made a world of difference. Having all the necessary tools ahead of time would also have saved many trips to the basement. So let's start there.

Tools
Torx sockets in 25,30,40,45,50
10mm & 13mm socket
3mm & 5 mm allen wrench
Breaker bar (to remove the four OEM bolts that hold the OEM exhaust support in place. There have Loctite on them from the factory.
Rubber mallet (used to pound off the OEM exhaust)
Torque wrench
Blanket to lay/sit on the floor unless you have a bike table.

What I learned
- Remove the factory heat shields secure by two torx bolts. Each OEM exhaust pipe is held on by a single C clamp, but it doesn't slide off. You need to pound it off and in order to do that you need to remove the heat shield.
- Installing the servo motors threw me and I emailed Steeve at J&H on a Saturday for help. He called me within minutes. To me the directions were not clear on how to attached the servos to the bike. Steeve sent me a pic of the bolt to remove and explained that once the bolt is removed, you need to pull down on the plastic and slip the servo tab between the engine and the plastic then re-insert the bolt you just removed. Below is a picture of the bolt you need to remove. Makes sense now.
- Removing the four OEM T50 bolts that secure the exhaust support is a pain, especially on the LH side because the bolts are under the big, they are big, and Loctited in. There isn't much room to play with the shifter. I could see the probability of stripping one of these bolts as moderate. The RH side is easier because the bike is leaning in the opposite direction and there is no shifter. Still, this was the biggest pain of the project.
- The wiring was a breeze and took about 30 minutes. The button on the handlebar is easy to pop on and I snaked the wire through the existing OEM hole in the handlebar so it is concealed. Alternatively, you could zip tie it to the outside.

I could only start it up in the garage as it is 15 degrees out, but it makes me smile. Below are a couple pics of the process and to show where I ran into questions. I hope this is of some value to the next install.

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Hi there, am a bit puzzled how you managed to get J&H to sell you a set - their web-site and the contact I made with them stated “we only sell to authorised & trained installers”…
I’m in Australia and there is one listed dealer / installer here and their 2000 km away, so it sort of discouraged the J&H option for me !
But great quality exhausts
 
It's raining here in NJ today; so, hypothetically speaking if you had $3k burning a hole in your pocket, which J-&-H exhaust tip would you go with on your Black First Edition Model B?

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I like the B with the blacked out end.
I think that I will open a poll post in a couple of days. I like the vance & Hines too. Good thing about the J-&-H is that the police should not complain about them too much
 
Scott Semone said:
I haven't seen or heard anything regarding the Vance & Hines for the Model-B? Looks..? Sound..? Cost..?
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Oh I was talking about exhausts for the R18 I ordered. Sorry about that.
That being said, I have spent a good amount of time looking for Vance & Hines exhaust and apparently they have nothing for the Model B. Which is crazy. I mean, why wouldn't they cover the whole R18 range?
 
MrFound said:
Oh I was talking about exhausts for the R18 I ordered. Sorry about that.
That being said, I have spent a good amount of time looking for Vance & Hines exhaust and apparently they have nothing for the Model B. Which is crazy. I mean, why wouldn't they cover the whole R18 range?
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Typically I can’t find it atm but I have seen pics of the V&H pipes on a bagger. Just need to use the round ones that fit the classic and not the tapered ones for the base bike.
 
Scott Semone said:
Absolutely..!!! I could barely afford the exhaust, no way I can afford to pay a shop to do it; I'm a little hurt that anyone would think otherwise... :)
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No judgement from me! I was more wondering if you’d be making up another PDF how to? From memory when we installed them at HD to some of our rentals, they weren’t too bad to wire in just depended how tidy you wanted the install and where you wanted the button. R18 install is a tank off job which is obviously easier on the base/ classic. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them.
 
Scott Semone said:
Absolutely..!!! I could barely afford the exhaust, no way I can afford to pay a shop to do it; I'm a little hurt that anyone would think otherwise... :)
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So,am just trying to work out how J&H sells - was it directly to you, not through one of their registered instalation dealers ?!?
They told me by email they can't sell direct and referred me to the 'local' Aussie dealer who is 1500+km away.
Or did you order from a dealer who sends it to you to install yourself (ie to your your own address) ?
This is what I get trying to order on-line :

"Every official Dr. Jekill & Mr. Hyde | The Exhaust dealer has extensive knowledge of the system and is properly trained in assembling, testing and maintaining the system. This is an essential requirement for us, otherwise we cannot guarantee the quality of The Exhaust. This automatically means that consumers can only buy the system through an official dealer"

Just trying to work out how to get hold of one without the $$'s sending the buke 1000's km's + install cost to get one of these, which looks to me like the best on the market for an R18-Bagger model - any insights appreciated !
Cheers !
 
JDoc12 said:
So,am just trying to work out how J&H sells - was it directly to you, not through one of their registered instalation dealers ?!?
They told me by email they can't sell direct and referred me to the 'local' Aussie dealer who is 1500+km away.
Or did you order from a dealer who sends it to you to install yourself (ie to your your own address) ?
This is what I get trying to order on-line :

"Every official Dr. Jekill & Mr. Hyde | The Exhaust dealer has extensive knowledge of the system and is properly trained in assembling, testing and maintaining the system. This is an essential requirement for us, otherwise we cannot guarantee the quality of The Exhaust. This automatically means that consumers can only buy the system through an official dealer"

Just trying to work out how to get hold of one without the $$'s sending the buke 1000's km's + install cost to get one of these, which looks to me like the best on the market for an R18-Bagger model - any insights appreciated !
Cheers !
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I purchased the exhaust through the Wunderlich USA site; I had originally purchased the case protection bars for my R18 B, where I returned them for a credit which I applied towards the purchase of the exhaust system.
 
Scott Semone said:
I purchased the exhaust through the Wunderlich USA site; I had originally purchased the case protection bars for my R18 B, where I returned them for a credit which I applied towards the purchase of the exhaust system.
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Thanks - seems like purchasing through Wunderlich may work - I'll check it out (y)
 
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